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Friday, September 5, 2008

Fwd: [WHCworkshop] Re: the real joys of a haiku elist


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From: <gokurakuatworldkigo@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 2:53 AM
Subject: [WHCworkshop] Re: the real joys of a haiku elist
To: WHCworkshop@yahoogroups.com


one of the real joys of a haiku elist where there are people from all over the world such as Hawaii and Delhi and Kabul and Johannesburg is the discovery of new worlds full of new beings with new and strange and exotic creatures we never tasted, smelled, heard, or shared a swim with, which is I think the whole point of a kigo list, which is one of the things haiku doers have in their hip pockets traditionally.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/11063b.htm: I knew from a very young age that St Nicholas of Myra was one of the great saints of the Church before I ever knew he was Santa Claus (Santa Claus for me from infancy I think was like the Easter Bunny, funny and good fun but not any more 'real' than Sponge Bob, as much as I love and adore Sponge Bob). http://english.yinyangandtaichichuan.org/bodhidharma.html

Bodhidharma is one of the greatest saints in human history, but it was on the haiku workshop list that I discovered that daruma is a child's doll, a discovery which changed Bodhidharma, Santa Claus and St Nicholas of Myra for me forever and also made Sponge Bob all that much more endearing to me.

I have about 30 hours of Sponge Bob Square Pants and I once had a Sponge Bob Square Pants Festival in my house and I staid up and watched all of them while my guests slept here and there all over the house. It was one of my most favorite parties.
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drums announce breakfast
watching Sponge Bob
instead of the shadow shows


In Turkey: During Ramazan, about two hours before the fast begins before Morning Prayer, drummers walk through all the side streets banging drums with a rhythm you only hear during the Fast. On the 15th of Ramazan, the drummers come through in the daytime, and everyone either throws them their stipend
wrapped in paper, or they ring the door bell and you give them something.

They come around again on the day of the Break Fast, the holiday at the end of Ramazan. The drummers naturally are poor, and come usually from families of poor people who live from scavenging. Wedding musicians also usually come from the same families.

The 'iftar' an Arabic word which literally means breakfast is at sunset. Part of the requirement of Ramazan is that you eat a second meal before morning, about two hours before sunrise. "Imsak" which literally means "shut your mouth" is the official time to start the fast, as well as time for Morning Prayer, which can take place anytime from first light up until sunrise. Morning Prayer at dawn is strictly forbidden.

Before the "suhr" the meal before you start your fast, there is a tradition of "Karagoz" "black eye" which are plays performed behind screens with shadow show figures, comic but not quite slap judy in style, with all the very traditional folk characters you would hear in traditional folk tales, and it is not just for children.


iftar
the Internet cafe empties out
breakfast in plastic trays


Restaurants prepare iftar meals which can be easily packaged for takeout to all the shops and shopkeepers, and store and office workers where they don't close early and go home. Restaurants all have iftar specials, set menus for the rush and people come in 5 minutes before the call to prayer, eat and run, or some break fast at the mosque with a cup of water and some dates, and then go and eat before going back to work. Most families though eat iftar at home and there are karagoz primarily on all the TV stations.

In Gulf Arab countries the TV programs are very different than in Turkey, comedy, but TV comedy, and the more absurd the better.

During Ramazan, sports and shopping are traditional, and every family has to go out together and see what is for sale.


no bleaks
here in istanbul's streets
a lotta little kids after iftar




Thanks for your thoughts, Isa !

We have a bit on Ramadan here in the World Kigo Database
http://worldkigo2005.blogspot.com/2006/06/ramadan.html

Would you care to add your comments there ?
GABI

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